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		<title>Comment on Is The Jew Still In The Lotus? by Ori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do not strive to get to enlightenment. This is contradiction in terms. It either happens or not. What matters is the Process, the becoming.</description>
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		<title>Comment on India: Visiting the homes of villagers at &#8220;Sujata&#8221; by ginni</title>
		<link>http://zenpeacemakers.org/2012/01/india-visiting-the-homes-of-villagers-at-sujata/#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>ginni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ari!  I am so happy to read all you have time to write about your sojourn.  Love,  ginni</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ari!  I am so happy to read all you have time to write about your sojourn.  Love,  ginni</p>
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		<title>Comment on Working with India&#8217;s &#8220;Untouchables&#8221;  ~ Roshi Eve Marko by ginni</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 04:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Eve and Panavatti,
Thank you for your heart felt sharing.
Ten thousand deep humble bows to you in this very important service.
With Gratitude,
ginni</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Eve and Panavatti,<br />
Thank you for your heart felt sharing.<br />
Ten thousand deep humble bows to you in this very important service.<br />
With Gratitude,<br />
ginni</p>
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		<title>Comment on A story of our Zen lineage (citation not included) by Tendo</title>
		<link>http://zenpeacemakers.org/2012/01/a-story-of-our-zen-lineage-citation-not-included/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator>Tendo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The koan system is too rigid in my opinion. Initially, a teacher who had insight into his or her student and who was questioned or challenged by his student might have responded in such a way as to trigger kensho by his or her response. These situations and responses were recorded and became part of zen literature and tools for teachers. One is provided with a list of koans by a one&#039;s teacher who then &quot;tests&quot; the student during (usually) a private interview. I think this is stilted, it doesn&#039;t depend on any spontaneity between either the teacher or student. This over reliance on various books of koans is counter to the original experience of teacher and student. Admittedly I may not have either the scholarship or personal experience to fully appreciate the tradition as it has come down to us, I nevertheless feel there may be something to what I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The koan system is too rigid in my opinion. Initially, a teacher who had insight into his or her student and who was questioned or challenged by his student might have responded in such a way as to trigger kensho by his or her response. These situations and responses were recorded and became part of zen literature and tools for teachers. One is provided with a list of koans by a one&#8217;s teacher who then &#8220;tests&#8221; the student during (usually) a private interview. I think this is stilted, it doesn&#8217;t depend on any spontaneity between either the teacher or student. This over reliance on various books of koans is counter to the original experience of teacher and student. Admittedly I may not have either the scholarship or personal experience to fully appreciate the tradition as it has come down to us, I nevertheless feel there may be something to what I say.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Working with India&#8217;s &#8220;Untouchables&#8221;  ~ Roshi Eve Marko by Venerable Pannavati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venerable Pannavati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Eve, for your comments and great compassion. We witnessed so much after you all left and interacted with literally hundreds of people. Our host just kept allowing the layers to be peeled back and I am still in the game! We are talking with several groups to structure something workable for wells, water, schools, and heart-training, not eliminating anyone because their love is not perfected, but using whatever talents they bring where it can count. That&#039;s part of the job!Information on how Zen Peacemakers can be involved should they choose to will be posed on our website soon!  But, as Bernie-la (and I agree totally) in his Opinion says, &quot;it&#039;s complicated&quot; to say the least! So much pain, hurt, confusion....Yet, in the midst of this, the determination that one will not breathe his last breath without having put every ounce of his flesh into the &quot;try&quot;, forsaking even his own family for the sake of many is what makes me able to see beyond the momentary defiance to help bring about long term peace.Just as Bernie understands deeply the suffering of the genocide of his people and can in profound ways bring comfort and healing through physically (not just mentally) taking sons and daughters to the chambers to really sit with, accept and ultimately overcome the grief, I also understand plight of the Dalit leaders, deeply, being a recipient and witness, myself, of mass hatred condoned by the protective societal institutions (church, school,financial, government) of a nation against Blacks from the time they brought us here until now. And, while Dr. King is heralded with being the voice of our freedom, (and indeed, it goes better for everybody that way), I can tell you also that some groups &quot;just said NO!&quot; and their presence was also a catalyst for change. There was a slogan back them in the &#039;hood: &quot;the (true) revolution will not be televised.&quot; But, the healers ultimately do come--and rightly from within the movement. Facilitating this phase is where I see my role. Helping Dalits move on, not as one coming to help -- but AS one. Seeing the issues from their side. How do you teach one who has been treated as an Untouchable (and then there&#039;s the Unmentionables as well) to love those who have treated him or her and their descendants this way for a couple of thousand years? (And, we won&#039;t even discuss sheer magnitude of numbers.) You can&#039;t just walk in and say &quot;you have to love your enemies&quot;. No, you have to work along side them teaching love for the enemy and self, by example. Some things are just better caught than taught. It takes wisdom and patience to guide a cornered stallion who can see the gate to freedom but is not quite sure how to get to it--and it takes fearless bodhichitta (which I also call mother-wit) to call wild sons to their true home (the heart). I was never one to take the smooth road. My inner torture having been cooled, I stretch out my hand to the one still screaming in pain. Ghandi was not an Untouchable, he eliminated the oppression of his group. Ambedkar was an Untouchable. Maybe what he did in his time was what was needed. I think so, even if it is not what is needed now. But, what he started is not finished, and that&#039;s why I&#039;m a Zen Peacemaker. So, Bernie-la--dearest--as I approach my 30 day reflection period, the verdict is in: I grock with this group. So, please save a little for us,ok (smile)? I met the author of Water to Wine. He goes where peacekeepers in Darfur will not go and works with the ones peacekeepers will not work with. Isn&#039;t it great that Bernie doesn&#039;t expect us to all be vanilla wafers and line up in a row as Zen Peacemakers, either?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Eve, for your comments and great compassion. We witnessed so much after you all left and interacted with literally hundreds of people. Our host just kept allowing the layers to be peeled back and I am still in the game! We are talking with several groups to structure something workable for wells, water, schools, and heart-training, not eliminating anyone because their love is not perfected, but using whatever talents they bring where it can count. That&#8217;s part of the job!Information on how Zen Peacemakers can be involved should they choose to will be posed on our website soon!  But, as Bernie-la (and I agree totally) in his Opinion says, &#8220;it&#8217;s complicated&#8221; to say the least! So much pain, hurt, confusion&#8230;.Yet, in the midst of this, the determination that one will not breathe his last breath without having put every ounce of his flesh into the &#8220;try&#8221;, forsaking even his own family for the sake of many is what makes me able to see beyond the momentary defiance to help bring about long term peace.Just as Bernie understands deeply the suffering of the genocide of his people and can in profound ways bring comfort and healing through physically (not just mentally) taking sons and daughters to the chambers to really sit with, accept and ultimately overcome the grief, I also understand plight of the Dalit leaders, deeply, being a recipient and witness, myself, of mass hatred condoned by the protective societal institutions (church, school,financial, government) of a nation against Blacks from the time they brought us here until now. And, while Dr. King is heralded with being the voice of our freedom, (and indeed, it goes better for everybody that way), I can tell you also that some groups &#8220;just said NO!&#8221; and their presence was also a catalyst for change. There was a slogan back them in the &#8216;hood: &#8220;the (true) revolution will not be televised.&#8221; But, the healers ultimately do come&#8211;and rightly from within the movement. Facilitating this phase is where I see my role. Helping Dalits move on, not as one coming to help &#8212; but AS one. Seeing the issues from their side. How do you teach one who has been treated as an Untouchable (and then there&#8217;s the Unmentionables as well) to love those who have treated him or her and their descendants this way for a couple of thousand years? (And, we won&#8217;t even discuss sheer magnitude of numbers.) You can&#8217;t just walk in and say &#8220;you have to love your enemies&#8221;. No, you have to work along side them teaching love for the enemy and self, by example. Some things are just better caught than taught. It takes wisdom and patience to guide a cornered stallion who can see the gate to freedom but is not quite sure how to get to it&#8211;and it takes fearless bodhichitta (which I also call mother-wit) to call wild sons to their true home (the heart). I was never one to take the smooth road. My inner torture having been cooled, I stretch out my hand to the one still screaming in pain. Ghandi was not an Untouchable, he eliminated the oppression of his group. Ambedkar was an Untouchable. Maybe what he did in his time was what was needed. I think so, even if it is not what is needed now. But, what he started is not finished, and that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m a Zen Peacemaker. So, Bernie-la&#8211;dearest&#8211;as I approach my 30 day reflection period, the verdict is in: I grock with this group. So, please save a little for us,ok (smile)? I met the author of Water to Wine. He goes where peacekeepers in Darfur will not go and works with the ones peacekeepers will not work with. Isn&#8217;t it great that Bernie doesn&#8217;t expect us to all be vanilla wafers and line up in a row as Zen Peacemakers, either?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A story of our Zen lineage (citation not included) by Marie Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://zenpeacemakers.org/2012/01/a-story-of-our-zen-lineage-citation-not-included/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....or they write prolifically, but otherwise hole up in a little backwater zendo in Canada and practice with us backwater Zennies, like my teacher does.  No better life possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.or they write prolifically, but otherwise hole up in a little backwater zendo in Canada and practice with us backwater Zennies, like my teacher does.  No better life possible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 16 People and Organizations Changing the World in 2012 by AnneHSUS</title>
		<link>http://zenpeacemakers.org/2012/01/16-people-and-organizations-changing-the-world-in-2012/#comment-591</link>
		<dc:creator>AnneHSUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for including the HSUS on this great list!  I hope that we and all of the other great groups listed here can make real change in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for including the HSUS on this great list!  I hope that we and all of the other great groups listed here can make real change in 2012.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is only the beginning by Barbara Wegmueller</title>
		<link>http://zenpeacemakers.org/2011/10/this-is-only-the-beginning/#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Wegmueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Charly, wishing you a safe trip to Dehli and a wonderful trip with Bernie and friends!
love
Barbara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charly, wishing you a safe trip to Dehli and a wonderful trip with Bernie and friends!<br />
love<br />
Barbara</p>
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		<title>Comment on India owns copyright to Buddhism: Karmapa Lama by Stephanie Potter</title>
		<link>http://zenpeacemakers.org/2011/12/india-owns-copyright-to-buddhism-karmapa-lama/#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful - No one says it like a Karmapa</description>
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		<title>Comment on NYZCCC receives full accreditation from the ACPE by Mujin Karuna</title>
		<link>http://zenpeacemakers.org/2011/12/nyzccc-receives-full-accreditation-from-the-acpe/#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>Mujin Karuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been a great fight and something long in coming,specially needed for the prison programs are these such fully certified chaplaincy teachers. Being involved in many such programs, Zen Buddhism (Buddhism in general), is out of reach for the majority of the prisoners in the U.S do to not having Buddhist Chaplains in place. The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world at 754 per 100,000 (as of 2009), it is even higher as of 2011. The Department of Corrections (DOC), has made it just about imposable for inmates to exercise there 1st amendment right to practice their religion, well at lest religions that do not fall in line with the D.O.C chaplains that are at this time in place firmly (dug-in). Inmates that wish to practice Buddhism in such place as Florida`s D.O.C will have a great barrier to over come do to not having Buddhist chaplains that can in fact fight for them. Yes fight is the word i am using here. Why?....because that is just what it is. In many cases inmates will be thrown in the box just on a phone call from the chaplain to discourage the inmate from having Buddhist materials sent in, materials approved by D.O.C`s main office. The Chaplains are for the most part Southern Baptist or Christian in nature, and are very dangerous is the word i am going to use here. Over the years i have found that it is do to their ignorance of Buddhism, they simple are not open to anything outside of their own belief. and they punish, 60 to 90 days in the box, on the house, just for wanting to study Buddhism. These Buddhist chaplains can help this, can stop the suffering of many inmates, and from there move for change. Because a 2002 study survey showed that among nearly 275,000 prisoners released in 1994, 67.5% were rearrested within 3 years, and 51.8% were back in prison. These numbers are even higher now, everything has become worse, not better. Over the years i have seen some of the best Dharma come from incarcerated inmates, and have seen the Dharma move Mountains after their release. But it starts under those gun towers, it`s just that simple. in the free world has it referred to, we can slide into a zendo or go for a retreat. we can read and buy and get as many Dharma books as we want and when we want. For the nearly 2 million plus, it will be through these Buddhist Chaplains. they have a tall order to fill, i wish them a safe journey and much metta.

Gassho,
Ven Mujin Karuna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a great fight and something long in coming,specially needed for the prison programs are these such fully certified chaplaincy teachers. Being involved in many such programs, Zen Buddhism (Buddhism in general), is out of reach for the majority of the prisoners in the U.S do to not having Buddhist Chaplains in place. The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world at 754 per 100,000 (as of 2009), it is even higher as of 2011. The Department of Corrections (DOC), has made it just about imposable for inmates to exercise there 1st amendment right to practice their religion, well at lest religions that do not fall in line with the D.O.C chaplains that are at this time in place firmly (dug-in). Inmates that wish to practice Buddhism in such place as Florida`s D.O.C will have a great barrier to over come do to not having Buddhist chaplains that can in fact fight for them. Yes fight is the word i am using here. Why?&#8230;.because that is just what it is. In many cases inmates will be thrown in the box just on a phone call from the chaplain to discourage the inmate from having Buddhist materials sent in, materials approved by D.O.C`s main office. The Chaplains are for the most part Southern Baptist or Christian in nature, and are very dangerous is the word i am going to use here. Over the years i have found that it is do to their ignorance of Buddhism, they simple are not open to anything outside of their own belief. and they punish, 60 to 90 days in the box, on the house, just for wanting to study Buddhism. These Buddhist chaplains can help this, can stop the suffering of many inmates, and from there move for change. Because a 2002 study survey showed that among nearly 275,000 prisoners released in 1994, 67.5% were rearrested within 3 years, and 51.8% were back in prison. These numbers are even higher now, everything has become worse, not better. Over the years i have seen some of the best Dharma come from incarcerated inmates, and have seen the Dharma move Mountains after their release. But it starts under those gun towers, it`s just that simple. in the free world has it referred to, we can slide into a zendo or go for a retreat. we can read and buy and get as many Dharma books as we want and when we want. For the nearly 2 million plus, it will be through these Buddhist Chaplains. they have a tall order to fill, i wish them a safe journey and much metta.</p>
<p>Gassho,<br />
Ven Mujin Karuna</p>
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